Tony writes:
quoted 3 lines But then there's a lot to be said for music that isn't technically> But then there's a lot to be said for music that isn't technically
> perfect in terms of compositional style, rhythm programming, or
> whatever.
oh i certainly have a LOT to say about that sort of music... how about "it
sucks" for starters.
quoted 3 lines It's of no interest to me whether some artist does or doesn't> It's of no interest to me whether some artist does or doesn't
> know anything about rhythm programming if the sounds being created
> are worthwhile, and in B12's case they usually are.
interesting point of view. personally, i find a well constructed track much
more interesting that its component noises. i mean check out underground
resistance. most of their classic tracks are just 909 and 303 with maybe one
other synth or sample thrown in. in this day and age that should be
unutterably boring, but it isn't. cos they are the masters of FEEL and
GROOVE.
Jamie Hodge writes:
quoted 3 lines I've always thought that Autechre would be better off as the>I've always thought that Autechre would be better off as the
>kid who does percussion, versus two.. I can't stand those schmaltzy synth
>lines that always sludge up the great drum programming.
glad to see it isn't just me.
quoted 3 lines At the same time, I'm a bit wary of ANY string patches as of late..>At the same time, I'm a bit wary of ANY string patches as of late..
>They're so easy to cull up from gear and they mask many weaknesses in the
>artist's musicianship..
i totally agree. that's what i hate about a lot of this so called
"intelligent jungle". it's just the same old thing with a big string wash
thrown on top... as if big D-50esque chords mean anything anymore. i
recognize that one of my weakenesses comes from all that classical training i
had as a youth... i tend to follow really lame, standard progressions. i'm
trying to get away from it. i'm much more interested in the tension generated
by taking one chord, with a really dynamic, changing pad sound and seeing how
the rest of the track rubs up against it. that's interesting harmonic motion,
to me.
quoted 2 lines If anybody feels like heading up a discussion about the future of>If anybody feels like heading up a discussion about the future of
>timbres and sequencing in electronic music, please do.
reporting for duty, sir.
quoted 4 lines It seems to me that the stuff these guys are doing is superior>It seems to me that the stuff these guys are doing is superior
>because the process goes beyond sequencing, often involving tape
>manipulation, acoustic and synthetics back to back, and a sense of
>space in relation to time.
i'm not so sure about this "superior because it goes beyond sequencing" thing
though. i mean, there's nothing inherently wrong with a sequencer, other than
that it tends to become a crutch. i've been trying to use mine in ways that
i'm unaccustomed to. it helps because i wind up making mistakes that i end up
liking a lot.
quoted 1 line as usual, I'm coming off like a jerk, but I really want this music to mature>as usual, I'm coming off like a jerk, but I really want this music to mature
don't worry about it. i feel like a jerk as well but hey, if the world wants
to settle for an endless diet of B12 and Autechre and Freeform, then they get
what they deserve.
-j-